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		<title>By: Kinsey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kinsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a Pekingese &amp; I&#039;ll have you know that I am VERY smart!  Just ask my mom!  When she got me, I was 4-5 yrs old &amp; had never been trained but you couldn&#039;t tell it now.  Mom has taught me a lot of tricks &amp; she talks to me like she would a child &amp; I know what she&#039;s saying to me.  When it&#039;s time for bed she takes me out to &#039;go&#039; &amp; I do, then I know it&#039;s time to go to bed.  If she doesn&#039;t come in the bedroom I&#039;ll go look for her &amp; she tells me to go up my stairs &amp; I do, right up on the bed.  She does tell me how stubborn I can be but I also know when she means business!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a Pekingese &amp; I&#8217;ll have you know that I am VERY smart!  Just ask my mom!  When she got me, I was 4-5 yrs old &amp; had never been trained but you couldn&#8217;t tell it now.  Mom has taught me a lot of tricks &amp; she talks to me like she would a child &amp; I know what she&#8217;s saying to me.  When it&#8217;s time for bed she takes me out to &#8216;go&#8217; &amp; I do, then I know it&#8217;s time to go to bed.  If she doesn&#8217;t come in the bedroom I&#8217;ll go look for her &amp; she tells me to go up my stairs &amp; I do, right up on the bed.  She does tell me how stubborn I can be but I also know when she means business!</p>
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		<title>By: Ginger Pie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ginger Pie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m half Sheltie, we are herd dogs and that means SMART!!!  We have to be able to think and reason to herd.  There is a lot of thinking that goes into the herding task.  We don&#039;t just rush in, bunch them up and drive them!!  We have to evaluate the type of animal and the herd as a whole and figure out the correct approach.  If you don&#039;t think we are way up there in IQ points, you need to watch some herding trials.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m half Sheltie, we are herd dogs and that means SMART!!!  We have to be able to think and reason to herd.  There is a lot of thinking that goes into the herding task.  We don&#8217;t just rush in, bunch them up and drive them!!  We have to evaluate the type of animal and the herd as a whole and figure out the correct approach.  If you don&#8217;t think we are way up there in IQ points, you need to watch some herding trials.</p>
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		<title>By: Birdy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Birdy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 03:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LAME.... sorry but that&#039;s like saying you are smarter because of your race, LAME LAME LAME. 

I am sick as heck of people saying Dalmatians are dumb. My Birdy is smarter than a lot of adult humans I know. She knows over 30 &quot;tricks&quot; and she &quot;speaks&quot; both English and Spanish. 

And Beagles??? I grew up with Beagles and they are NOT in the least bit dumb. They are very smart and cunning. Manipulative as well. BOL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LAME&#8230;. sorry but that&#8217;s like saying you are smarter because of your race, LAME LAME LAME. </p>
<p>I am sick as heck of people saying Dalmatians are dumb. My Birdy is smarter than a lot of adult humans I know. She knows over 30 &#8220;tricks&#8221; and she &#8220;speaks&#8221; both English and Spanish. </p>
<p>And Beagles??? I grew up with Beagles and they are NOT in the least bit dumb. They are very smart and cunning. Manipulative as well. BOL.</p>
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		<title>By: Angel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i was surprised to see the bloodhounds on the not-so-smart list...that&#039;s ridiculous! i agree with Carissa &amp; Kolbe.  but i can believe border collies made the #1!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i was surprised to see the bloodhounds on the not-so-smart list&#8230;that&#8217;s ridiculous! i agree with Carissa &amp; Kolbe.  but i can believe border collies made the #1!</p>
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		<title>By: ChiX &#38; MinPin/Whippet</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChiX &#38; MinPin/Whippet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Firstly, I know I will get strung up here for saying this, but I have yet to meet a Golden I think is &quot;smart&quot;. Trainable sure, but &quot;smart&quot; or &quot;sharp&quot;, I dunno.

I also wanted to see what this Dog IQ test was. So I did two of the problem solving tests on my 2 dogs. Not shockingly, the Chi didnt fare so well. However, my MinPin turned the whole thing on its head. Technically he didnt do &quot;well&quot;. However, he kept looking to me to tell him what to do. Thats because I do a TON of training with him. He is used to me being the reward lady, and I wasnt cueing him, so he was confused. I have also taught both dogs the &quot;Leave It&quot; command, so I think they were skeptical I was setting them up for that as well. 

I guess my point is that these tests/lists are never really going to be conducted on a &quot;fair&quot; playing field. Pretty much impossible. 

I also liked someone else&#039;s comment that we obviously assign the &quot;Most Intelligent&quot; award to those breeds who are like &quot;little humans in suits&quot;. So true! I do love me a Border Collie, probably because they can ready my mind!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firstly, I know I will get strung up here for saying this, but I have yet to meet a Golden I think is &#8220;smart&#8221;. Trainable sure, but &#8220;smart&#8221; or &#8220;sharp&#8221;, I dunno.</p>
<p>I also wanted to see what this Dog IQ test was. So I did two of the problem solving tests on my 2 dogs. Not shockingly, the Chi didnt fare so well. However, my MinPin turned the whole thing on its head. Technically he didnt do &#8220;well&#8221;. However, he kept looking to me to tell him what to do. Thats because I do a TON of training with him. He is used to me being the reward lady, and I wasnt cueing him, so he was confused. I have also taught both dogs the &#8220;Leave It&#8221; command, so I think they were skeptical I was setting them up for that as well. </p>
<p>I guess my point is that these tests/lists are never really going to be conducted on a &#8220;fair&#8221; playing field. Pretty much impossible. </p>
<p>I also liked someone else&#8217;s comment that we obviously assign the &#8220;Most Intelligent&#8221; award to those breeds who are like &#8220;little humans in suits&#8221;. So true! I do love me a Border Collie, probably because they can ready my mind!</p>
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		<title>By: Mya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, it&#039;s actually Stanley Coren as the above poster, A beagle and a GSD, said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, it&#8217;s actually Stanley Coren as the above poster, A beagle and a GSD, said.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was interesting but i think that the intelligence is developed. if you dont teach the dog to do things, as you do with your children, probabbly they will never learn. Their energy levels are different... i think thats an issue in the intelligence fields</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was interesting but i think that the intelligence is developed. if you dont teach the dog to do things, as you do with your children, probabbly they will never learn. Their energy levels are different&#8230; i think thats an issue in the intelligence fields</p>
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		<title>By: Mya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was reading a book, and it said that inteligence tests are usually based on Working/Obedience intelligence, which is how easy the dog is to train and how well they listen to you. There are also other types of inteligence; one&#039;s that measure problem solving and adaptation to environments. Read the book Inteligence of Dogs by Steven Cohen (or maybe it&#039;s Coren) to read the different inteligence types. All dogs are smart in their own ways! :o)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was reading a book, and it said that inteligence tests are usually based on Working/Obedience intelligence, which is how easy the dog is to train and how well they listen to you. There are also other types of inteligence; one&#8217;s that measure problem solving and adaptation to environments. Read the book Inteligence of Dogs by Steven Cohen (or maybe it&#8217;s Coren) to read the different inteligence types. All dogs are smart in their own ways! <img src='http://dogblog.dogster.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
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		<title>By: A beagle and a GSD</title>
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		<dc:creator>A beagle and a GSD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 07:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coren&#039;s book came out in 1995. It has been very popular, but the idea of &quot;intelligence&quot; as a singular notion for all breeds of dog has widely been debunked. 

If I&#039;m lost in the woods, send in the &quot;dummies&quot; -- the bloodhounds, beagles and other hounds -- instead of the border collies, please.

Different breeds were bred for different uses, of course.  It&#039;s no huge surprise that the &quot;smartest&quot; dogs are those bred for herding, protection and retrieving. These are dogs largey bred to work directly with humans.  Bringing up the bottom? Dogs largely bred to work independently of their owners. 

As noted above, the term intelligence should be biddability. Coren certainly knows that (by now.) My beagle is just as intelligent as her GSD &quot;sibling.&quot; She knows just as many tricks, has just as large of a vocabulary, does sophisticated obedience as well, and does agility and tracking. I couldn&#039;t train her using traditional methods though.  But she is very trainable, as he is.

The problem is that we like to look at dogs as little people in fur suits then congratulate those who are most like us. Stanley Coren&#039;s subsequent books show that he understands fully about true breed intelligence. But I guess the idea of the &quot;most&quot; intelligent dog is too alluring for the casual dog owner.

At least, all of those border collies are super easy to train...and reason with.  

Heh..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coren&#8217;s book came out in 1995. It has been very popular, but the idea of &#8220;intelligence&#8221; as a singular notion for all breeds of dog has widely been debunked. </p>
<p>If I&#8217;m lost in the woods, send in the &#8220;dummies&#8221; &#8212; the bloodhounds, beagles and other hounds &#8212; instead of the border collies, please.</p>
<p>Different breeds were bred for different uses, of course.  It&#8217;s no huge surprise that the &#8220;smartest&#8221; dogs are those bred for herding, protection and retrieving. These are dogs largey bred to work directly with humans.  Bringing up the bottom? Dogs largely bred to work independently of their owners. </p>
<p>As noted above, the term intelligence should be biddability. Coren certainly knows that (by now.) My beagle is just as intelligent as her GSD &#8220;sibling.&#8221; She knows just as many tricks, has just as large of a vocabulary, does sophisticated obedience as well, and does agility and tracking. I couldn&#8217;t train her using traditional methods though.  But she is very trainable, as he is.</p>
<p>The problem is that we like to look at dogs as little people in fur suits then congratulate those who are most like us. Stanley Coren&#8217;s subsequent books show that he understands fully about true breed intelligence. But I guess the idea of the &#8220;most&#8221; intelligent dog is too alluring for the casual dog owner.</p>
<p>At least, all of those border collies are super easy to train&#8230;and reason with.  </p>
<p>Heh..</p>
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		<title>By: Drover</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No offense, but they shouldent base how smart a dog is on how many tricks and how obediant they are.</description>
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